Fitness FRAUD ALERT – All Delivered Dirt

Fitness FRAUD ALERT – All Delivered Dirt

Posted on 23. Jan, 2012 by in Marketing Fitness

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All Delivered Dirt on Super-Trainer.com Fitness Marketing

All Delivered Dirt on Super-Trainer.com Fitness Marketing

All Delivered Dirt on Super-Trainer.com Fitness Marketing

All Delivered Dirt on Super-Trainer.com Fitness Marketing

All Delivered Dirt on Super-Trainer.com Fitness Marketing

All Delivered Dirt on Super-Trainer.com Fitness Marketing

All Delivered Dirt on Super-Trainer.com Fitness Marketing

All Delivered Dirt on Super-Trainer.com Fitness Marketing

All Delivered Dirt on Super-Trainer.com Fitness Marketing

All Delivered Dirt on Super-Trainer.com Fitness Marketing

All Delivered Dirt on Super-Trainer.com Fitness Marketing

All Delivered Dirt on Super-Trainer.com Fitness Marketing

All Delivered Dirt on Super-Trainer.com Fitness Marketing

Hey Sam, Jamie Plunkett here. I’m making a short video for you to tell you about the bad experience I had with “All Delivered”.

To start it of I was recommended by it to “All Delivered” by the Bootcamp Guru. I think all you guys know who that guy is.

I purchased 5,000 door hangers, those little paper door hangers that you know, you hang on door knobs outside people’s homes. I purchased 5,000 gift cards to stick to each and every door hanger. The paper door hangers that go on the door knobs cost me about 400 hundred bucks. The gift cards cost me fifteen hundred dollars and it cost me about two hundred bucks to get them all stuck together. So “All Delivered” they came into play, in September I hired them. When I first hired them I just signed this delivery agreement which has all kinds of crazy verbage and stuff basically stating that they can do whatever they want to do with your material, deliver it whenever they want, deliver it wherever they want, and all this other crazy stuff, but I was referred to them so I figured there’s no big deal, went ahead and signed it, paid them a thousand dollars for delivery fees. So at this point door hangers, gift cards, delivery fee and the little bit of labor I had sticking the gift cards to the door hangers. It’s over thirty five hundred dollars I’ve invested.

So, I hired them september. The delivery supervisor here in Kansas came and picked them up at my house on the 16th. They were telling me they’re gonna deliver them on the 17th or start delivering them and distributing them over the next few days. I kept getting the run around, they weren’t getting their GPS devices, they fired people, they couldn’t get enough people to deliver them, just one excuse after another. Finally they said they started on October 14th which was a friday. So I have a friday and then saturday, I drove around both days looking for my door hangers in the neighborhoods they were supposed to be delivered in. Which was supposed to be at 143rd in Metcalf, in Overland Park, Kansas and a radius going out from that intersection. So 5,000 door hangers, the farthest that’s gonna reach is maybe like a 3-mile radius. Anyway so I asked quite a few of my clients, about 20 clients who live in that area if they’ve seen my door hangers or anything… nope, nope, nope, nobody has seen any so then I called Catherine at “All Delivered” on Monday, actually on Saturday asking her what was going on and so she finally got back to me on monday and said she was looking into it, didn’t know what was going on. They ended up basically lying to me and saying that they were starting delivering them when they really hadn’t. So then she’s like “okay we’re gonna start delivering them tomorrow”, so on Tuesday the 18th of October they were gonna start delivering them. So I’m under the impression they’re delivering them. On the 19th, a Wednesday I received an irate phone call from a director of a retirement home here in Overland park where they have no soliciting. And, I guess my door hangers are all over their community.

We (“All Delivered” and I) verbally agreed and through email that these door hangers are going to be hung on single-family homes and you know in a radius around that address. These were delivered to 119th in Lamars where this retirement community was which is about 5-miles north of that intersection. So, I get on the internet where they provided me this website where I can GPS track where they’re delivering my door hangers, and at that current day they were delivering them 60 blocks north of where we were or where they were supposed to be – 143rd Metcalf. So I drive over there, can’t find anybody and then I drive back to the retirement home on the way back to stop in and apologize and try to save face in there. When I get there, not only did they deliver them there, they piled them there. They were piled on coffee tables, in the laundry rooms, all over the floors, just a giant mess. Basically embarassing my company. So, I report that back to “All Delivered”, to Catherine my supervisor in California, she said she was looking into it – and I never heard back from her.

So, then I issued a charge back on my credit card for the thousand dollars that I paid them. And, one thing they say whenever you issue a charge back, I’m gonna read right here off the delivery agreement. There’s late fees of $35 per month, first charge back fees of $35, second in additional charge back fees of $70 per charge back, bank overdraft fees of $35 per charge back, NSF fees 3 times the amount of check written. So, they’re sayin’ that they can charge me 3 grand there. Investigative services of $250, legal collection fees $250, administration fees $200, collection fees of 30% of the total cost of the advertising order, and legal fees. So, that’s like five or ten grand there, they’re saying they’re gonna sue me for if I issue a charge back. So, I issued a charge back. 30 days later I receive an email saying that they are threatening to sue me. So, I tried to call to resolve the issue because I don’t wanna have to deal with it. Got a big run around, they gave me a couple of bank wire numbers to wire the money back to them, and basically I kept going to the bank to try to wire them money and when I would call them to get the information or I’d go in there I didn’t realize all the information I needed to have to wire ’em money. I need to have the name and the address on that account which they didn’t give me and so I call them and nobody’s there to tell me the information I need so then by the time they do call me back it’s already 4pm here and the banks are closed, so I can’t pay them their money. So, at that point I was extremely irritated and I just gave up on trying to pay them and I say “you know what, I’m not giving them their money.”

So, then shortly thereafter I received a call from their delivery supervisor here in Overland Park and he’s basically questioning why I didn’t pay for their services and all this other stuff because “All Delivered” didn’t pay him. So I issued a charge back because you guys didn’t deliver my stuff and you piled them in a retirement community. He’s like “No, we delivered all your stuff” I’m like “No, I have pictures of them in the retirement community”. So then he apologizes, then I go “by chance where did you deliver them to?” They told him to deliver to 83rd in Metcalf which is 60 blocks north of where they’re supposed to so, you know way off on their delivery if they even did deliver them which I doubt they did.

And where we are right now, my credit card has issued the money back to “All Delivered” because “All Delivered” responded to my charge back and basically under federal regulations they have to release the funds back to them until they hear back from me with legal documentation stating what happened and why I’m disputing at all and this other stuff, my evidence and everything. So, at this point I’ve exhausted way too many of my hours on this thing, I just wanna let it go. I’m not really sure what I’m gonna do with it. I have about 5 more days to figure out whether I wanna keep fighting it or not.

Yup, that is “All Delivered”, I highly advise not using these guys. Couple of other things about them, their business license is expired and they have numerous reviews online stating all the terrible things they’ve done with other folks too.

Thanks Sam for this opportunity. Have a great day.

Jamie Plunkett

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7 Comments

Michael Duivis

23. Jan, 2012

Hey Jamie thanks for posting – this is something everybody should know about. I went with doorhangers too and was ABOUT to sign up for All-Delivered.

The fact they promise GPS tracking made me figure they were legit… but when I saw that contract of theirs it had too many red flags.

I wound up going for some other guy and had a horrible experience as well. 10,000 doorhangers for $800 delivered… but only 2 phone calls.

So I’m assuming mine never got delivered either.

Overall I think doorhangers are too risky for success. The only real way to ensure they get delivered is to have your manager/assistant manager watch them do it… but that’s way too time-consuming.

Awesome post though, you just saved trainers a bunch of money

keith

24. Jan, 2012

Hey Jamie- thanks for posting!

I had a similar experience with a completely different company here in Australia.

Direct marketing fliers into Letterboxes (without a gift card) used to pull heaps of leads and clients in my area for many years.

At the start my business was built by letterbox marketing but in the last couple of years they haven’t been as effective.

It has also pulled some outstanding JV partners

The local council unfortunately deliverered “no junk mail” signs to every house in the area a few times now so its less effecitve than it used to be and I dont do it very often

Heres how I used to get them done (at half the cost of any delivery company) if you wanna test in your area.

Delegate most of this apart from the actual recruiting to your admin.

1. make a good direct response piece (even the bad piece I used cos I didn’t know any better still worked well just because the program I had was niched) coloured paper and glossy have both worked for me
2. Put a unique offer on the flier so you can test and measure.
3. put and ad up on the noticeboard out the front of the local supermarket for letterbox deliverers.
4. I found local underemployed people or language students (here for at least 12 months were the best
5. trust your vibe on who you use, if they are going a good job you can use them again without having to do step 1 again
6. photocopy your local map and break into smaller areas
7. only give out enough fliers for part of the map, if a deliverer doesn’t work out you haven’t lost all your stock
8. give them a job description- what boxes they deliver to,what they dont, where not to leave them etc
9. give them a highlighter and send them out
10. get the map filled in and returned at the end of the shift
11. tell them you will be checking the area at the end of every shift and they will only get paid if you find the fliers and if the map is returned
12. do some random checks
13. if you trusted your vibe and followed the first steps they will have done a good job
If it works repeat……

patrick

24. Jan, 2012

Hey! it was nice meeting you last weekend at Sam’s event (thanks for ride to airport!)

This is nuts right? How can Mr. X recommend you to this bullshit. i honestly feel for you bro

7Figure Sam

25. Jan, 2012

Jamie,

“The Boot Camp Guru” that recommended this company DOESN’T OWN A SINGLE BOOT CAMP NOT ONE and that’s the problem. How can you recommend something that you haven’t tried in the trenches yourself.

It’s like me recommending a restaurant that I have never eaten at.

Armando

25. Jan, 2012

Hey Jamie, that totally sucks. Thanks for posting and sharing your experience. This is going to help lots of trainers.
Cheers,
Armando

Nick

26. Jan, 2012

Thanks for sharing Jamie!

Eirith

27. Jan, 2012

The “Bootcamp Guru” makes a ton of shit up. To think people pay him $1000 a month for shit advice like this.

BUT YOU GOTTA HAVE ENERGY, BRO!!!!

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